Eoghan was one of two reviewers we sent to the first ever Camden Crawl Dublin last weekend – here he puts his own festival experience into some perspective, with the benefit of a few days’ distance
Eoghan’s review of Day 1 of Camden Crawl Dublin here
Ronnie’s review of Day 2 of Camden Crawl Dublin here
Full lineup by Curator here
Photos: Bríd O’Donovan
1. The Dublin Crawl was a success
There were about 100 bands/artists playing the inaugural Camden Crawl Dublin in 13 venues spread around the city. The chances of seeing anywhere near a sizeable portion was not going to be possible. This writer got to see 14 bands, though a few of those were only snippets of sets. Was it a success? From what I could see, yes, it was a brilliant weekend that brought a tingle of festival excitement to the streets of Dublin just for a few hours.
To the uninitiated, the Camden Crawl has taken place in London for the last 11 years and the idea – lots of ‘new’ bands playing in lots of venues around a city with one ticket to get access to all the gigs – was imported to Dublin for 2012. Lisa Paulon writes in the official Dublin Crawl programme: “We were looking to launch a Camden Crawl sibling event in another city for quite a while.”
I haven’t been to the London event so I don’t know what it’s like, but the biggest gripe here seemed to be that the programme was only released an hour before the first band of the weekend started – this is what happens in London, we were told. If this is the biggest gripe that people had then it’s a minuscule one in the grand scheme of things.
(My biggest regret of the festival was that at one of the fringe venues, JJ Smyths – a class, old-man place – two acts switched around but nobody was told. I had been dying to see Tara Masterson Hally, a teenage singer-songwriter who hasn’t played live often yet. She had swapped sets with Dott because they were arriving late from Galway. Though Dott were good in a ‘they’re not Best Coast but they’ll do’ sort of way, I was gutted I missed Hally. It took me a while to get over that one.)
2. In the battle between old and new, old won
Would people be willing to fork out money to go to gigs at 6pm by bands many might not have heard of, and where the biggest ‘headline’ bands are Mystery Jets and We Are Scientists, groups who have hardly been in the ascendency in recent years? Apparently they would and the crowds flocked to the aforementioned groups. The idea of the festival was that you might discover a new band to fall in love with, but you wonder did people actually explore or were they simply waiting for We Are Scientists and Mystery Jets? On at the same time as the crowdsurfing We Are Scientists on the other side of the city was Dam Mantle, an English electronic producer. Not a name I am familiar with, I took the festival’s apparent raison d’être and went in search of something new, mainly due to him headlining Grand Social curator Nialler 9’s night. You wouldn’t have been surprised if tumbleweed was rolling around on the floor in front of Mantle, such was the attendance.
Mystery Jets the following night packed out the Button Factory. But were the people in here fans or simply because this was ‘the big one’? The chatter drowned out the sound near the back of the venue, where you could barely move. The band never really got out of first gear, either, simply ploughing through some new tracks (their latest album was released last week) before playing the ones people might know. Yet even then, ‘Young Love’ and ‘Two Doors Down’, which Mystery Jets readily admitted the crowd would know, were barely received with enthusiasm. It was a yawnsome set with a crowd that seemed to be there just because it was an international band. In the battle between finding new music and watching something a little stale, it seemed the latter had won.
3. Venue Curators didn’t really do anything
Apart from Aoife Barry’s Saturday night event in The Workman’s Club and Richter Collective’s Button Factory raucous the previous night, I don’t really know what the point was of the curators for the festival. Aoife has championed Toby Kaar before anybody else (Plugd Records in Cork were also early on the case – Ed.) and it was nice to see him pay tribute to her during his set (more of which later) while And So I Watch You From Afar and Jogging are both Richter Collective bands. Maybe it was so people would say, as I did myself, “Oh, they’re playing Nialler 9’s night so I should go check them out.” But the curators didn’t introduce any of the bands, and some weren’t even at the festival, let alone ‘their’ venue: Jim Carroll/On the Record was at The Great Escape in Brighton over the weekend but he was a curator on the Friday night. Hardly a vote of confidence in the bands playing ‘his’ night…
4. Toby Kaar is going to be massive
Aoife Barry had been bigging him up before everybody else caught on, but on Saturday night at the Workman’s Club, for over an hour, Cork producer Toby Kaar left jaws on the floor along with dancing shoes. He started by saying: “We’ll start with the new one. I fuck this up half the time.”
He didn’t mess it up – he didn’t put one step wrong all night. And he’s become much more confident on stage, too, dancing around to the beats, offering the crowd a drink and even coming back for an encore. Nothing new here you might think, until you realise that Kaar has not released anything physically, bar perhaps one or two songs here and there. He exists only via Soundcloud and Bandcamp but through 18 months of word of mouth he’s already reached the stage where drunken girls are clambering up onstage to dance with him and ask for a shout out. Imagine what the crowd will be like once an album arrives. Though you wonder if he even needs it.
(The band who almost stole the weekend was Come On Live Long, playing the opening slot at Whelan’s on Friday night. It may not have been busy, but the five-piece put on a show full of energy, one they will build on as they release more than just the two EPs they have under their belts to date. If you were in search of a new band to fall in love with, Come On Live Long were it.)
5. The ‘Alternative Music’ landscape continues to deepen and widen
On show over the course of the two days was heavy instrumental music, indie, pop-rock, pop, post-punk, folk, electronica and gospel. There were probably even more, too. It’s difficult to say when you’re listening to to new Irish electronic music on headphones from your laptop, for example, whether it will transfer to the stage. But as Toby Kaar proved, if it’s done right, they will come. Though not on the same stage as Kaar yet, fellow Cork producer Bantum played a blinder at the Mercantile on Saturday night, mesmerising the growing crowd of onlookers for about 45 minutes. Having seen him open for Kaar in The Pavilion in Cork just after Christmas, Bantum seemed a little lightweight in comparison at the time (Kaar pretty much sold the place out), but it was clear he’s already stepped it up. SertOne played the same venue later the same night, also drawing a very busy, very talkative crowd that was eventually won over.
We Are Losers and Girl Band, meanwhile, are on the other end of the scale, playing loud, noisy pop-rock songs. No keyboards are on display but both add something new to the scene. Everybody at the Losers show on Saturday was left wanting more thanks to Gavin Elsted’s easygoing, carefree stage persona that culminated (almost) in a cool throw-your-guitar-away exit. Girl Band wowed simply by virtue that the lead singer didn’t lose his voice such was the screaming. Not the most original sounds in the world but We Are Losers and Girl Band (who played before Toby Kaar) certainly make music fun.
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13 comments
J says:
May 15, 2012
It’s a pity the turnout was poor for Dam Mantle, was at the London one last week and every show I saw was well attended, and I didn’t see any “big” acts, Toby Kaar played at 6 in the evening in the venue furthest from the epicentre and he packed out the room, and he was clashing with a whole load of popular stuff. Glad it went well all in all.
Una Mullally says:
May 15, 2012
RE: “I don’t really know what the point was of the curators for the festival.” – the curators for the festival chose bands from an exhaustive initial list, and it’s through this process that the bands who played the festival ended up playing. After being assigned venues, we then picked what bands we would like to play individual nights with the idea of giving each venue an eclectic feel based on our own musical preferences. While it might have seemed on the night that we weren’t really up to much, most of the work was done beforehand behind the scenes. It was up to individual curators whether they wanted to brand the venue or not (I don’t really like branding all over gig spaces so didn’t), introduce bands, etc.
Aisling says:
May 15, 2012
I totally disagree about the Mystery Jets gig. I am not a massive fan but have one or two of their albums. I thought the set was absolutely incredible. Maybe the problem was that you were down the back? With the lay out of the Button Factory it is hard to get an atmosphere near the bar. Up the front people were listening and hanging on every word!
RE venue curators – They did a huge amount of work advertising the festival. Peter from Word of Mouth was the reason Cork was covered in posters. It was good to have a national presence for the festival with curators from Cork, Galway and Belfast so that it wasn’t just a Dublin festival.
Also, I think for a punter who wouldn’t know Jim Carroll or Nialler9 (I went with a few) it was the music that mattered.
Eoghan says:
May 15, 2012
J: Dam Mantle was also playing the Saturday so he might have gotten more onlookers then. If he played too pretty quiet nights at the weekend he might not think too kindly of coming back to Ireland anytime soon. Also, that’s class that Toby packed out a gig in London. He deserves everybody’s attenion. As I said he played a blinder.
Una: Apart from the entertainment.ie logo at the Mercantile on Friday (that was ‘their’ night, you could be forgiven for thinking that someone just pressed the random button for the festival. Fair enough if you all did put your own personal marks on the night, but I still don’t think there was that much point to having people in the music business have their names over the small bands that were playing. Also will it just have been coincidence that 2FM got the biggest bands for their two nights? They were broadcasting the sets, I think. Did they get first choice?
Peter says:
May 15, 2012
I’d have to disagree with point 3 saying that the venue curators didn’t really do anything. All the curators worked hard on this event behind the scenes. Preparations started in February where we had numerous meetings choosing the line up from a list of nearly 1,000 bands. All curators got to choose which bands played at their chosen venue and all helped to promote the event.
I do agree with you about the whole event being a success. I really enjoyed both days and it was great to see such a good turnout for an event in its first year.
Anna says:
May 16, 2012
Anna from Dott here.
I’m really sorry to hear you missed Tara MH when you wanted to see her so much. That’s really crap.
But it wasn’t because we just arrived late from Galway. We had an 8pm start time. So the 6pm
start time on the programme was a big surprise for us too. There was no way we could make it in time for a
6pm start and we’d discussed this with the organisers from day 1. Why they changed it without telling anyone was really strange but I hope it didn’t ruin your night!
I don’t want people to think we just swan in and arrive late taking
other peoples slots
Conor O'Toole says:
May 16, 2012
conor here, wearenoise editor. thanks to everyone for getting involved in this debate about the camden crawl dublin festival. let me say that we are of the opinion that eoghan has raised some valid questions in his overview piece, chief among them, the issue of an apparent lack of transparency as to the function of the curators of each venue. eoghan’s statement “I don’t really know what the point was of the curators for the festival” is a perfectly plain audience response and it’s good to see both una and peter (two of the curators) begin to give some more detail on the curator function. some more detail would be even more welcome, so jim carroll, nialler9, dan hegarty etc., line up and fill us all in.
aisling, it may well be true that the curators did a mountain of work in the run-up, but surely that could have been communicated in some way? curators’ statements as part of the programme?
to keep perspective on everything, it’s also worth bearing in mind that 3.5/4 of eoghan’s 5 points reflected positively on the festival in general. so come on people, take a bit of constructive criticism and let’s move on.
as an interesting adjunct, anna from dott’s info about the scheduling confusion for their gig seems to back up eoghan’s general point about a certain vagueness in communication to the audience hanging around the festival. hopefully this will improve in future years. it is the audience that makes any festival, after all.
Ronan Corksongs says:
May 16, 2012
Curators putting up posters?
Isn’t that a promoter/venue task?
I will say here and now, I’ve worded for
Camden crawl (in actual camden one)
before and hope to again.
They bring a machine that runs very well,
but people listen to all the bands
submitted over there too, but don’t get
called curators. That word has become a
nom de jour (pardon my French) and seems
a bit much for deciding on four or five acts
and what order they should go in.
No disrespect to Una, Aoife et all, some
of whom I know. Chosen/complied is one
thing, curated another
I’m guessing someone else is gonna
try and beat me to a blog piece
called ‘The c-word’ about this subject
Can I pitch it here to you editor?
Conor O'Toole says:
May 16, 2012
haha
pitch away ronan
(there’s flagrant abuse of the english language going on all over the shop, just ask barry!)
Peter says:
May 16, 2012
Not all curators put up posters. As I am based in Cork I looked after it for them down here. The Camden Crawl Dublin was run in the same way as the UK version albeit on a slightly smaller scale. The UK one also has curators. They are all listed here on the poster as curators. http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/articles/news/camden-crawl-announce-programme-curators/
This debate is taking away from the fact that the festival was a great success. Any festival in its first year in this country in the current economic climate would be delighted at the numbers that attended.
Call us what you want, curators, hosts, whatever, we were asked to assist the festival and were all happy to do so.
Conor O'Toole says:
May 17, 2012
thanks peter, see my comments below (above) re the bulk of eoghan’s points. i didn’t see an attendance numbers tally, has that been made public?
sally, i also found it strange that jim carroll had no mention on his blog of the event in the week running up. re the note stage at whelan’s, are you sure about that? it seems like quite specific/insider information…
Sally Howard says:
May 16, 2012
some really good points there, most pertinently about the relevance of the “curators”. Jim Carroll didn’t attend, didn’t even appear to be tweeting or plugging the event. Why bother agreeing to do it if you’re not even going to be there on the night? The guy from Note Productions not only didn’t show up, he assigned the bookers in Whelan’s to pick his acts. the 2FM thing is weird, all the big acts seem to be channeled into the Village/Whelans. In fairness to Una Mullally she really seemed to engage with the event, getting into the organisation side and tweeting and plugging the artists the whole time. The Same with Sweet Oblivion/Aoife Barry. Others seemed to just exploit association with hip acts and a hip event and not really put anything of themselves or what they’re about into the event.
overall i thought the event was good though.
Ronan says:
May 21, 2012
At Peter, I don’t think this conversation was taking away from the point. Festival seemed a great success, fair boules.
At Conor, I shall do. Very soon